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Originally Posted by NYSPORTSFAN
I could find so many examples of better guitar playing and singing on many Beatles tracks than rockabilly music IMO. Have you ever heard of "Blackbird" or "You Neve Give Me Your Money" or most of Abbey Road to start with on guitar. Vocally where do I start maybe try "Because", "Hey Jude" or "Oh Darling".
When did I say the Beatles were the only mold breakers? I was talking about the Beatles in what they did musically.
You would think me being a music fan and guitar player that I don't know George Harrison was highly influenced by rockabilly music "I Saw Here Standing There", "All My Loving", and "She's A Woman" all show influence from rockabilly music. Carl Perkins certainly noticed it when he first heard "All My Loving". I even detect it on some of their psychedelic songs like "Dr. Robert" and "Fixing a Hole".
You said "Buddy Holly, Elvis, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Johnny Cash don't get recognized for their groundbreakingness or moldbreakingness because they become seen as passé towards the Beatles"
I don't think that is quite true IMO and I would think people would know the original sound of rock and roll came from many of the people you mentioned. They might seem passe but I wouldn't single out the Beatles in this regard as there are a whole bunch of bands like Led Zeppelin who are more popular than the people you mentioned. The thing is the Beatles alway's acknowledged who they were influenced by.
The Beatles took their influences and went on to do something different that you can hear a direct influence on many of the bands in the last 45 years ranging from King Crimson to Nirvana. The Beatles had the right mix of presentation, melody, song structure, strange chord progressions and experimention that appealed to the masses and that includes musicians.
The Beatles weren't overtly experimental in every song but why should they there is more to music than releasing experimental music. In songs like "Tomorrow Never Knows", "I Am The Walrus" and "Being for the Benifit of Mr. Kite" were just as experimental as Sun Ra IMO but in a different way. The type of fusion of "It's Only A Northern Song" is not really far from early Pink Floyd and Miles Davis. Then again for all the hate "Revolution #9" gets it's probably the most dissonant track released on a commercial album.
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That was the point I was trying to make but apparently the Beatles themselves were arrogant pricks who thought they were gods gift to the earth. I'm not so sure about that. They were pretty modest and actually joked at the praise they received from some musicologists at the time. There's of course the famous joke about Lennon thinking that aeolian cadences sounded like some kind of "exotic bird". They were never really hesitant to confess who their influences were. I can think of several interviews when they spoke of the influence that Bob Dylan had on their music.
I would definitely say that Zeppelin was a lot more arrogant than the Beatles. They weren't as original and you could even say they plagiarized, or "heavily borrowed" other artists music for their own songs. Not saying the Beatles didn't do that, but zeppelin did it to a greater extent.