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Old 09-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So that's what the song is called. His voice seems to work for the subject matter.

I think the original reason I didn't like singing around me was fear of the people doing it.
I've never thought that people could be scary when singing children's songs...unless they were dressed as clowns.

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I always thought "Pat-a-cake" was "Patty cake." I think it was used in my family. It's okay, but I think of it as more a game than a song.
I did a little investigation to get to the bottom of this and learned that sometimes people call it "Pat-a-cake" and sometimes "Patty cake." Although there are some versions of "Patty cake/Pat-a-cake" that use actual notes, most seem to use sing-song voice inflections (accentuating the rise and fall of normal speech).

I think of it as a game *and* a song. It's rap!

Barney - "Pat-a-Cake (Barney Song)"
Primitive rapping for babies.


Pat-a-Cake (Barney Song) - YouTube


Young men playing "Patty Cake" (<-- See...they say "Patty Cake")
Not just for kids!


Patty Cake - YouTube

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Probably I learned to read early. I was well ahead by first grade. That's an interesting possible connection between reading and music.
I thought I'd throw that possible connection out there since it would make sense that kids who learn to read early might tend to find children's songs to be too simple.

Also, I have a sample size of 2 (now 3!) to support this hypothesis: my child learned to read just before his 3rd birthday and never seemed to be a fan of children's songs (and now hates them), while I was behind most of my peers in reading proficiency...and I liked children's songs when I was a child.

When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, my school made me see a reading tutor (arrgghh! I resented having to go to a tutor). I felt I didn't need one. I'd read all the Berenstain Bears books and Bambi, and I just didn't think it would get much better than that, so why would I need to read more?? I always told them that I *could* read...I just preferred to do other things.

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Not impartial
Probably not!

I should have written, "To me this may reflect a catering to children's innate fascination with other animals (moving beings), and also might reflect a desire of adults to create a fictitious world in which people get along with other animals (rather than ignore, hurt, kill, eat them, etc.)." It's a working hypothesis.

I suppose being taught "Mary had a little lamb" and then seeing people turn around and eat said lamb was too much for my 5-year-old self to swallow without eventually wondering about the disconnect. It just seemed as if everyone with these happy animal children's songs was encouraging me to care about animals, but then when I *did*, they told me not to!

I still wonder what's going on in human culture that causes adults to create and sing so many children's songs that anthropomorphise animals so that kids think about and like animals.

Now I'm reminded of one of my favorite children's songs when I was a child (besides "Mary had a little lamb"):

Oh Where, Oh Where Has My Little Dog Gone?
(I didn't like the "cutting" part of tail and ears when I was little, but I still liked the song and used to worry about the lost puppy)


Oh Where, Oh Where, Has My Little Dog Gone -Disney - YouTube
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