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Old 09-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #519 (permalink)
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So the religions that have a spiritual afterlife is the ones who are onto something then? What about religions like buddhism or hinduism who believe in reincarnation? Because that's quite different from spending the rest of eternity in some heaven. So, it's not like all religions agree on what happens after we die.
The reincarnation process only serves to help us reach our goal. Whether or not religious beliefs are congruent is irrelevant, because the same thing is going to happen to all of us, no matter what our beliefs are.

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I think religions are littered with faulty thinking, whether wishful or driven by fear, culture or a genuine desire to be able to explain the world we live in without having had the means to actually figure stuff out like we can now.
I agree. I am not a religious person either. Religion is the greatest tool ever invented with which to enslave the masses via fear. It was only after I deeply studied as many religions as I could that I found myself where I am today. I believe in no specific religion. But spirituality, religion and science all tend to coalesce when we get down to the specifics which define what we are apparently all looking for here.

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That "feeling" you mention is just a feeling. As I wrote, Hitler probably also had that feeling when he had his spiritual epiphany. It doesn't mean you're onto something. It's just part of that human weakness. Some things appeal strongly to us while others don't. Isn't it obvious that people would like to be able to say what happens after we die? And isn't it also obvious that they would like there to be an existence after death? It makes for a more appealing story than the alternative and that's a large part of why it's so popular in religion.
Well nobody knows what happens after we die. But if a person finds a kernal of truth that they believe in, who are we to tell them that they are wrong? Live and let live. Let each person have their own beliefs. I just hope that they come about them in the most beneficial ways.

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Yet you don't seem very critical towards your own fantasies.
My beliefs are not set in stone. I am sure they will change and evolve even more before I die. I cannot claim them to be correct for all, but everyone has their own path to follow. My beliefs guide my path.

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Scientific methodology is designed to get around human weaknesses. That's why we f.ex use statistical evidence to support a hypothesis and not just anecdotal evidence or a "feeling" that this must be true.
No one is arguing with you on that. No belief system can be proven. We can stop at that and have a beer if you'd like I just don't see why you feel the need to take an active role in attempting to dismantle peoples' systems of belief.
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