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Old 06-15-2012, 12:56 PM   #1165 (permalink)
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**** it, it's not like there's anything particularly hot going on in this thread. Let's go.

Having said that, I haven't seen Deep Space Nine, Voyager, or Enterprise in years, so I can't really rate them, but I pretty much remember watching them all pretty religiously. None of the Star Trek series was bad. Though the fact that they pretty much skipped over the whole war with the Romulans (**** you spell check, it's a perfectly good word!) and had the Sulabons (Don't know if I spelled that right, don't care) be the main enemies was ****ing stupid. Or so I remember. I was in military school and unable to watch it for a large part of it's run. Which also made me miss Firefly the first time around too.
Right, well, if anyone takes offence/gets bored let me know, but since the gauntlet has been thrown down....

Without quoting a boring Wiki entry (which I would NEVER do!) the basic thing is that NexGen, for all its great reception, was the first Trek series ever after the original, so everyone jumped on it. Some loved it, some hated it, some hated it then came to love it, few loved it then came to hate it. The first season was pretty poor, mostly due to stiff characters, little development and recycled TOS (The Original Series: Kirk, Spock, that lot) episodes, often with hardly any original writing at all. Plus original Trek creator Gene Roddenberry maintained a vice-like grip over the storylines.

The seasons improved after his stepping back from the executive producer role, and later his passing, and the series introduced some of the best ever characters, with Data's character development being particularly well handled, the greatest ever Star Trek villains, the BORG being introduced, the superb episodes like "Yesterday's Enterprise", "Cause and effect", "Sins of the father" and of course "Best of both worlds", the BORG, Wesley getting kicked off the series, Bev coming back, the BORG, Picard getting his end away, Riker meeting his double (setting up some interesting episodes later, in other series), Data's cat turning from male to female without any explanation and giving birth, silly episodes like "Rascals", "A fistful of Datas", "Masks", the appearance of Q, the BORG, the Ferengi, the return of Kah'less, the possibility hinted at of Troi and Worf getting together, oh yes, and the BORG.

DS9 was the first Trek series to "go dark", introducing more adult themes, wars, betrayals, conspiracies, and characters who firmly straddled the line between dark and light, like Garak and Gul Ducat. Decisions weren't as clear cut or easy in DS9, and quite often the "good guys" did bad things, all in the name of the Federation. It was also the first series to properly challenge the holier-than-thou attitude of said Federation, and introduce a "black ops" element within the organisation. Finally, DS9 was more arc-driven than any of the others, with episodes often/usually leading into others, and huge plot strands being expanded and developed over often months or years.

Voyager was basically a soap opera in space, with a few good episodes but a major drawback in that no matter how bad the ship got hit, it was always back to top condition next episode. Decisions taken in one ep rarely if ever had consequences in future ones, and can I just say FAIR HAVEN!!!??? Say no more, for those who know.

Enterprise I quickly lost interest in so I can't talk authoritatively about it, but I did feel the characters were less engaging, the stories quite weak and I thought Scott Bakula made a poor and not believable captain. I even preferred Janeway to him, that's how little I rate him.

Well, my phasers and photon torpedo banks are fully charged, and power has been routed to the shields, so let's have ya!
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