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Old 12-16-2011, 12:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RVCA View Post
Hey Duce, I hate to break it to you, but you're not a deist. First, you claim that you don't subscribe to "conventional" religions, but go on to explain your belief in sin, Jesus, and elements of the Christian afterlife. Second, and more importantly, it's a fundamental tenet of deism (practically the definition of deism) that everything was created by an all-powerful creator who then stepped back to watch his creation run. In that sense, deists believe in free will, so your belief in predestination is directly in conflict with this.
You mean like this:

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Originally Posted by Il Duce
believing instead in an impartial chaotic entity, who has already set the universe in motion and has already fixed a linear space-time continuum for all of us
To believe in sin, Jesus, and elements of the Christian afterlife does not equate to being a conventional christian. Christianity proper has made it clear what qualifies as a conventional Christian:

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Originally Posted by The Apostle's Creed
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church; (for Catholics)
the communion of saints; (for Catholics)
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.
Christian dogma is pretty clear that the belief in "all of the above" is what constitutes Christianity. Any deviation is, for the most part, considered heretical.
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