12-16-2011, 12:03 PM
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Al Dente
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,847
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Originally Posted by RVCA
Hey Duce, I hate to break it to you, but you're not a deist. First, you claim that you don't subscribe to "conventional" religions, but go on to explain your belief in sin, Jesus, and elements of the Christian afterlife. Second, and more importantly, it's a fundamental tenet of deism (practically the definition of deism) that everything was created by an all-powerful creator who then stepped back to watch his creation run. In that sense, deists believe in free will, so your belief in predestination is directly in conflict with this.
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You mean like this:
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Originally Posted by Il Duce
believing instead in an impartial chaotic entity, who has already set the universe in motion and has already fixed a linear space-time continuum for all of us
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To believe in sin, Jesus, and elements of the Christian afterlife does not equate to being a conventional christian. Christianity proper has made it clear what qualifies as a conventional Christian:
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Originally Posted by The Apostle's Creed
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven,
and sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church; (for Catholics)
the communion of saints; (for Catholics)
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.
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Christian dogma is pretty clear that the belief in "all of the above" is what constitutes Christianity. Any deviation is, for the most part, considered heretical.
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