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Originally Posted by Euronomus
Dude that's like saying that when people look back at the 70's they define that generation by the Carpenters and Abba or looking to the 90's and saying that Celine Dion is the pinnacle of what was happening in music at the time
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If I ask my mum what her and her friends were listening to in the 70's, she'd definitely list ABBA and The Carpenters in the top 5, so by that I can safely say that yes, ABBA and The Carpenters were two of the groups that defined her generation. I think you need to understand what it means to be the defining music of a generation, it means the music that most represented what people wanted through that time. Name someone who has had more of an impact on the same amount of people, for the same length of time as Beyonce. Who else has been in the top 5 or so artists consistently since 1997? You might not want to acknowledge it, but believe it our generation will be remembered and represented by the likes of Beyonce.
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Originally Posted by Euronomous
Record sales have almost nothing to do with artistic relevancy, they mostly reflect marketing and the size of the audience, and more often than not the ones with the potential to sell a lot of records are either a)the lowest common denominator or b)the most bland and mediocre/inoffensive. Sometimes good artist do sell a lot of records, but more often than not what's popular is entirely forgettable. I mean really Garth Brooks is the third highest selling musician in US history and how relevant is he in the history of music? Popularity is probably the worst metric of determining what has real relevancy because to most of the people buying the most popular stuff music isn't really important.
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lol are you sure that music isnt important to them? So people are just spending money for the sake of it? Think it through mate, just because you wouldnt buy her music doesnt make her irrellevant to the millions of people worldwide who give over their hard earned money to own her songs and albums, while the 'relevent' artists dont have two pennies to scrape together because 'real' music fans illegally download their music. You dont get people to hand over their money for the length of time that she has without being good, and without making music that people want to hear.
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Originally Posted by Euronomous
But to throw my 2 cents into the main argument here, while I won't claim to have listened to a lot of her music the 4-5 song's I have heard are trite and bland and entirely forgettable. The ability to hit a high note doesn't make someone a good singer, putting your heart and soul into what your singing is the mark of a great singer and I don't hear that in her music at all.
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I agree with what you look for in a good singer, I dont look for technical ability either, heart and soul is the most important thing. But to say that Beyonce doesnt have that, doesnt put her heart and soul into her music is just basically burying your head in the sand and ignoring the fantastic music that she has made.