I mean from what I've read didn't Rancid stay on an indie label their entire career? They're half of Operation Ivy for heaven's sake.
And Green Day was very much the punk ethos at the beginning of their career and its why they got so much grassroots attention. I'm not talking about the American Idiot Green Day here...
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