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Old 08-25-2011, 01:09 PM   #337 (permalink)
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Physics merely explains the properties which matter holds and how things in this world interact with each other. It cannot explain anything outside of these things.

Every process we know requires initiation by some outside force. Even the most basic of processes require this.

As to the origins of God, this is a trick question. The deist God is a relatively simple (but effective) Creator. This question to my mind is only applicable when you get the prayer-answering, sin-punishing, humanity-judging God of the Bible and Qur'an. Why do I think this? Because much of this is completely and utterly against what we know to be possible in the real world (through scientific principles). IF you take away all these impossible elements, nothing about the idea of a Creator God goes against any sensible scientific and rational mindset.

Indeed, Stephen Jay Gould actually proposed this same theory, that of a miracle-free religion, and Thomas Jefferson was of a similar opinion (see the Jefferson Bible for example).
Alright, so if god is subject to the same laws as the rest of the universe, and the universe needed something to get it started, what about god? If the universe needed a god to get started, what did god need? Sounds to me like you're right back where you started.
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