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Originally Posted by phoenixflames
One time a guy told me that punks are just Hippies with violence and no peace. It seems to make sense. I don't really consider myself a punk (I just listen to the music), so I don't know if that is a valid point or not.
I just thought I would throw this out there for people to think about and discuss. I'm sure some of you have heard it before. Nothing is ever new or original.
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I haven't heard that before, but I wouldn't entirely agree with it. You could find some similarities between the two movements, but their vision of the world was focused entirely in two different directions. I always thought that Hippies idea was to go back to the Garden of Eden they wanted to be in a steady state of ecstasy through mind altering drug, sex and transcendental meditation, skinny dipping (eg during during Woodstock) living in communes on farms etc. I'm not saying that that is what the Garden of Eden was, but that was for some what they envisioned it would be like.
The Punks on the other hand instead envisioning the Garden of Eden saw a post-Apocalyptic world. During that the time Punk began the economy was tough, there was a Cold War that was always presenting the scenario that a nuclear war could wipe out civilization. Not all Punks imo were in the beginning weren't haters but started out cynical and angry about the state of the world so they lean toward a post-Apocalyptic image as a way of saying look where we going - to hell in a hand basket. They wore ripped shirts, safety pins, spikes, piercings, had Mohawks or spiked hair cuts, imo this was what people would wear in a post-civilized world. There was of course other influences for fashion too. I really can't make an blanket statement to include everything the punk movement, (e.g. when the Punk movement start out some were middle class kids who like to dress up like punks and others were poor and lived poor) but it how I see one aspect of it being opposite of hippie movement.
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Originally Posted by mord
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.
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