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Old 06-07-2011, 06:42 AM   #117 (permalink)
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The Catholic God, theoretically, could do so. It would definitely be more likely if the Creator wasn't all-knowing, but I definitely say that it could still be done.

In spite of the theoretical omnipotent being knowing all that has come to pass and all that will ever come to pass, and having full control of who he does and does not create, all that would be needed for free will is God not giving a damn.

Basically, assuming there is a creator for this argument, we could have free will based on his creating the Earth and the first human, then completely turning his back on all of humanity and allowing things to come to pass as they would. Perhaps he's already seen the end, gotten bored, and just let us go about playing things out until that end.

Also, I'm using free will to describe our own finite judgments and decisions. Likely, that's what is meant by free will in the first place, as we don't have the ability to do anything beyond that. So basically, I'll say that yes, there could be free will even if there is a deity who is our creator, but it is only free will within a certain set of parameters laid forth by this deity.
my Gnostic God is one who is not bothered much also, being impartial and non-judgmental

but I still believe everything is already written on the wall (so to speak) as is this and this will happen, you can't change it - time is linear (in our perception) so that's it, I did this (I typed this out), i have no say in it, the die has been cast even before I wrote this
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