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Old 04-17-2011, 10:35 AM   #320 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by starrynight View Post
But in what form? The use of dissonance in music could go back to Jean-Fery Rebel's The Elements, Haydn's Creation, Mozart's Dissonance Quartet. Ives uses it apparently as a contrast to tonal elements in some of his pieces as well. Prokofiev may have done some early dissonant piano pieces.

One area Ives may have been original - if it really matters - is polytonality. Not sure many composers since have really used that technique (again, if it really matters whether it's influential or not).

I think the crucial knowledge for people listening to experimental music is really just getting used to a style a piece of music is in That could be classical, jazz, electronica or other kinds of music

The form I mean is traditional instruments for an orchestra.

Those are good examples, especially Rebel (I need to learn more). Haydn, too, has really surprised me. Still, I don't think these composers made anything like the clashing dissonances of Ives but we should probably save it for when my nomination wins the vote.
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