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Old 04-04-2011, 02:08 PM   #58 (permalink)
Janszoon
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Originally Posted by crukster View Post
1. Atheism is not a thing. Atheism is an unthing.

We were debating the thing vs the unthing, I didn't make any sort of argument against Humanism. That's crazy.

I was saying atheism is irrelevant in the end. Either there's a God or there isn't, if there isn't how can you be "a-" to it?

If you say theism and being theist refers to more than just God, and refers to ideas and structures of Humanic morals and goals et.

Then wtf does that have to do with being atheist?

Atheist means "I'm not a theist"

Doesn't mean anything else beyond that. Ergo, if you define yourself purely and utterly as atheist, then you live your whole life saying

"im not a theist im not a theist im not a theist"

Well I'm not a ****ing turtle, I don't live my whole life saying "I'm not a turtle" sheesh
What is it with you and this particular strawman? Atheists don't define themselves purely and utterly as atheists. I have absolutely no idea where you're getting this notion that they do, but as I've said previously, you really need to do some more reading on this topic because you clearly have very weak grasp on it.

With regards to Humanism, this is is the part of the conversation I was referring to:

You said…
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Originally Posted by crukster
…if the non-religious are actually non-religious, how is there even anything for me to disrespect, I dont understand.
(^Implying, it would seem, that non-religious people don't have belief systems.)

And I responded…
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Originally Posted by janszoon
I'm confused as to why you think that religious people have a monopoly on having beliefs. There are beliefs in this world that are non-religious in nature.
(^Referring to non-religious belief systems, such as humanism.)

That is why I mentioned humanism.
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