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Originally Posted by Maccabbe
The Mythical Evolution movement is in direct opposition to what God wants in this universe, the exact opposite. God created a human being and gave him tools to achieve things that would make him even higher then the Angels, in fact it is mentioned in Sacred Jewish books that when the Angels saw Adam (the first human being) for the first time, they called him 'Holy', that's how lofty and high was the status of the first human being, that even the angels have called him 'Holy'. Yet some scientists want to turn this great and holy creation of God, into an ape bereft of any connection to the heavens.
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I have two questions after reading this part
The first is; the majority of christians in the world are catholics. The catholic church has publicly accepted evolution. How do you feel about that?
The second is; you seem to have a belief that because people are essentially holy, they have a capacity to ascend if you will, to become greater than angels. Could you explain that a bit? Have anyone achieved this?
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Originally Posted by Maccabe
Some people find it very appealing to be an animal and not 'Holy', for been 'Holy' is a great responsibility, things are expected from you, and you must conduct yourself accordingly, but been an ape? who cares, just do and act like a monkey, there is no ultimate truth to anything, there is nothing divine everything is just atoms and molecules.
What a disgusting and shameful way of living in this world, hating yourself so much that you are willing to become an animal just so that you will achieve this fictional 'freedom' from God.
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Here you have a sweeping generalization of how people who believe in evolution act (like animals) as well as their supposed reason for doing so (because they hate themselves).
I am an atheist and I don't hate myself. I also consider myself to be a highly moral being; For example I don't like rudeness and try to behave correctly, I always excuse myself or say I'm sorry should I bump into anyone in the street and I follow God's ten commandments, although my reasons for doing so have nothing to do with religion.
As for morale, you write as if your belief in God is the only thing keeping you from acting like an animal.
That is worrying to me. I believe morale is a capacity we have evolved (we have a moral center in the brain), something which lets us live together and cooperate in societies, something that helps us emotionally judge and distance ourselves from those who are morally weak and would exploit us or hurt society. As such, it is a capacity all healthy humans have, hence we're not reduced to "simple animals" without faith in a religion (not to mention many animals have morals too).
You believe that youth is worse off now than ever from a moral point of view. Actually, that depends. People don't hit their kids as much as they did back in the days. Modern men in western society don't hurt their wives as much as they used to either. Punishment is not as cruel in our society as it used to be. The general appreciation and percieved importance of human rights have only increased over the years. Most of the stuff you think is so wicked about modern society is stuff that has come about because people are more free than they used to be. I don't think anything that limits your freedom according to religion is automatically more
right. I think morale should be more about how we can happily coexist, for example without hurting eachother.
I bet you're the kind of guy who will defend thrashing children "for their own good" while you'd happily condemn someone to hell for wearing a short skirt. That, to me, is morally awful and weak. The kind who will hit their wives for not behaving right according to some percieved idea from the book. Thankfully for me, there's been a decrease in that kind of people and that helps make society morally better.