Is Meat Really Murder?

The Fascinating Turnip · 02-05-2010, 02:21 PM

Well, here's a thread that's fun for the whole family:

How many of you are vegetarians?
To what degree? (ie ovo-lacto, vegan...etc)
Is it just a matter of not enjoying meat, or do you feel there's a principle behind the whole thing?

There you go, discuss

Mojo · 02-05-2010, 02:22 PM

(Insert Vegangelica's essay here

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~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-05-2010, 02:28 PM

I'm a former vegan, current ovo-vegetarian. I got lazy with what I ate when I was vegan, and ended up anemic, with these huge ugly bruises all over my body. That being said, it is totally possible to live healthy on a vegan diet, if you're not a lazy ass. I've been vegetarian most of my life though, because I think it is disgusting to eat, not just to mention the cruelty part.

Oh, and ovo vegetarians are ones that eat stuff with egg or eat eggs. I'm lactose intolerant.

I ****ing hate PETA though, I don't believe anyone should force their dietary beliefs on anyone else. I get a lot of flak for my vegetarianism just because of what they force on people, they make vegetarians and vegans look bad. Plus, they kill animals. I also really hate people who find it necessary to tell me "Oh, hey I ate a steak!". Hey, great! I don't give a ****! So really, I don't bother people who eat meat, as long as they don't bother me about NOT eating it.

Militants also bug the **** out of me, because no, mother****er I am not going to make my cat eat vegan/vegetarian cat food. He's a ****ing cat, he can eat whatever the hell he damn well pleases. I was called a bad vegan for this, irony of ironies.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 02-05-2010, 02:37 PM

No. But the industrialized food system is a big, big problem. Eat meat from your local area and that greatly decreases the enviromental footprint - not to mention the animals are treated far better and honestly... they taste much better.

I don't find anything wrong with eating animals for sustinence, it's when the animals are born into this world and treated merely as product then living creature that I get involved.

noise · 02-05-2010, 02:38 PM

oh jesus ****ing christ.

humans are omnivores. we breed chickens and cows and cute little furry little lambs so that we can slit their throats, chop up their dead bodies, and eat their toasted/roasted/broasted muscles. there is nothing objectively wrong with that.

anyone who believes otherwise is deluded.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 02-05-2010, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise

oh jesus ****ing christ.

humans are omnivores. we breed chickens and cows and cute little furry little lambs so that we can slit their throats, chop up their dead bodies, and eat their toasted/roasted/broasted muscles. there is nothing objectively wrong with that.

anyone who believes otherwise is deluded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conan

No. But the industrialized food system is a big, big problem. Eat meat from your local area and that greatly decreases the enviromental footprint - not to mention the animals are treated far better and honestly... they taste much better.

I don't find anything wrong with eating animals for sustinence, it's when the animals are born into this world and treated merely as product then living creature that I get involved.

I just quoted myself because I think I made a good response to that without knowing it

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-05-2010, 02:42 PM

I've always felt that humans were definitely meant to eat meat, but I just prefer not to, because I think it's gross

The Fascinating Turnip · 02-05-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paloma

I'm a former vegan, current ovo-vegetarian. I got lazy with what I ate when I was vegan, and ended up anemic, with these huge ugly bruises all over my body. That being said, it is totally possible to live healthy on a vegan diet, if you're not a lazy ass. I've been vegetarian most of my life though, because I think it is disgusting to eat, not just to mention the cruelty part.

Oh, and ovo vegetarians are ones that eat stuff with egg or eat eggs. I'm lactose intolerant.

I ****ing hate PETA though, I don't believe anyone should force their dietary beliefs on anyone else. I get a lot of flak for my vegetarianism just because of what they force on people, they make vegetarians and vegans look bad. Plus, they kill animals. I also really hate people who find it necessary to tell me "Oh, hey I ate a steak!". Hey, great! I don't give a ****! So really, I don't bother people who eat meat, as long as they don't bother me about NOT eating it.

Militants also bug the **** out of me, because no, mother****er I am not going to make my cat eat vegan/vegetarian cat food. He's a ****ing cat, he can eat whatever the hell he damn well pleases. I was called a bad vegan for this, irony of ironies.

Exactly, people who shove vegetarianism down others' throats really tend to annoy me. And i believe that meat, as fur, is sometimes necessary for survival. If we consider Yakutsk, for example, those people definitely need fur, or else they'll freeze to death.
I respect you immensely for choosing not to eat meat and not being self-righteous. Also, you were called a "bad vegan"? Is there some kind of union you join when you decide you wont eat from specific food groups?...

noise · 02-05-2010, 02:49 PM

how long have humans been eating meat - 50,000 years? 100,000 years?

homo spaiens emerged 200,000 years ago. homo neanderthalensis, even earlier.

who are we to deviate because from this behavior because we feel it's "gross" or "wrong"?

personally, i'm inclined to go with the time-honored trends...

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-05-2010, 02:49 PM

hahhaha, VEGAN POLICE!

Yeah, I won't feed my animals vegan food. They like their food, it would be animal cruelty to deprive them of food they like.

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noise thirsty ears Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boulder Posts: 742	oh jesus ****ing christ. humans are omnivores. we breed chickens and cows and cute little furry little lambs so that we can slit their throats, chop up their dead bodies, and eat their toasted/roasted/broasted muscles. there is nothing objectively wrong with that. anyone who believes otherwise is deluded. __________________ my flac collection

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noise thirsty ears Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boulder Posts: 742	how long have humans been eating meat - 50,000 years? 100,000 years? homo spaiens emerged 200,000 years ago. homo neanderthalensis, even earlier. who are we to deviate because from this behavior because we feel it's "gross" or "wrong"? personally, i'm inclined to go with the time-honored trends... __________________ my flac collection

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	I'm a former vegan, current ovo-vegetarian. I got lazy with what I ate when I was vegan, and ended up anemic, with these huge ugly bruises all over my body. That being said, it is totally possible to live healthy on a vegan diet, if you're not a lazy ass. I've been vegetarian most of my life though, because I think it is disgusting to eat, not just to mention the cruelty part. Oh, and ovo vegetarians are ones that eat stuff with egg or eat eggs. I'm lactose intolerant. I **ing hate PETA though, I don't believe anyone should force their dietary beliefs on anyone else. I get a lot of flak for my vegetarianism just because of what they force on people, they make vegetarians and vegans look bad. Plus, they kill animals. I also really hate people who find it necessary to tell me "Oh, hey I ate a steak!". Hey, great! I don't give a ! So really, I don't bother people who eat meat, as long as they don't bother me about NOT eating it. Militants also bug the out of me, because no, motherer I am not going to make my cat eat vegan/vegetarian cat food. He's a **ing cat, he can eat whatever the hell he damn well pleases. I was called a bad vegan for this, irony of ironies.

02-05-2010, 02:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	No. But the industrialized food system is a big, big problem. Eat meat from your local area and that greatly decreases the enviromental footprint - not to mention the animals are treated far better and honestly... they taste much better. I don't find anything wrong with eating animals for sustinence, it's when the animals are born into this world and treated merely as product then living creature that I get involved.

02-05-2010, 02:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	I've always felt that humans were definitely meant to eat meat, but I just prefer not to, because I think it's gross

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	hahhaha, VEGAN POLICE! Yeah, I won't feed my animals vegan food. They like their food, it would be animal cruelty to deprive them of food they like.