Love or Hate?

**Janszoon** · 06-21-2015, 03:16 PM

Merzbow box set coming right up.

Machine · 06-21-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Ok, guys listen up. I said this in the OP but it seems some of you are (whether in earnest or not) intent on taking the piss, so here it is again:

Do NOT, I repeat NOT recommend me albums you KNOW I will hate, just to see me suffer. Batty is in charge of the Torture Chamber and it doesn't reopen until October, so anyone DELIBERATELY reccing me an album they know I'll hate, this is what will happen.

1. I won't listen to it
2. You'll get a warning not to to that again, and your recs will be treated from that point out with extreme suspicion and may be moved to the end of the queue
3. If you do it again after that, then I will accept NO further recs from you at all.

I think you misread that completely I adore the band and would love to rec them yo you I was just thinking that their albums would be too long and thus really hard for you to stand. And its why I didn't actually give you a rec for them.

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Merzbow box set coming right up.

Banned.

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

All I read was Trollheart is now open for new recs.

Not quite yet but very soon.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yes, principal Trollheart.

Weren't you told to stand outside?

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Originally Posted by Machine

I think you misread that completely I adore the band and would love to rec them yo you I was just thinking that their albums would be too long and thus really hard for you to stand. And its why I didn't actually give you a rec for them.

Fair enough; I wasn't actually sure, though in point of fact it was more Grindy I was referring to. I just don't want anyone (you, Grindy, anyone else) thinking they can use this as a way to make fun of me. I mean, you can, but not when it involves making me work and also taking time away from genuine recs.

Grindy, until I hear from you that it's not the case I'm putting your album on the back burner and moving on.
Edit: I see I made a mistake here. It was Josef K who recd the album, Grindy was just commenting. Ok then, on we go.

I would also like to take the opportunity to thank Goofle, who has more than twice changed his recs because he knew I would not like them. This is highly appreciated.

Josef K · 06-21-2015, 04:39 PM

I don't think Tilt is that out there - my hope was you'd be into the arrangements. I guess we'll see.

grindy · 06-21-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Ok, guys listen up. I said this in the OP but it seems some of you are (whether in earnest or not) intent on taking the piss, so here it is again:

Do NOT, I repeat NOT recommend me albums you KNOW I will hate, just to see me suffer. Batty is in charge of the Torture Chamber and it doesn't reopen until October, so anyone DELIBERATELY reccing me an album they know I'll hate, this is what will happen.

1. I won't listen to it
2. You'll get a warning not to to that again, and your recs will be treated from that point out with extreme suspicion and may be moved to the end of the queue
3. If you do it again after that, then I will accept NO further recs from you at all.

Do I make myself clear? I know this is all in fun and I'm really enjoying the thread, but it is a lot of work, and to know I was wasting time listening to something even Frownland might scream at is just annoying and a waste of valuable time I could be using listening to a proper rec. Merzbow aside: I asked for that. But even Frown recommended the Caretaker thinking I might hate it but hoping I might like it; he didn't do it with a sly wink and a snigger, knowing I would get nothing out of it.

So once again: if you think I may hate an album but there's a chance in your mind I may like it, rec away, but if you KNOW I'm going to hate it (and from what I've displayed of my tastes over the year you should by now have a half-decent idea of what I like and don't, and what I might like and what I will always be sure to hate) then just don't bother. That's not what I'm here for, and that's not what this thread is intended as.

And anyone who even tries to recommend me a boxset, well, I'm sure I don't need to tell you where you can go, do I?

You might have misunderstood me. Tilt is nowhere near Merzbow territory, it's just a very acquired taste imho. You might actually enjoy it. I once showed some Scott Walker to my grandma and she thought it was at least interesting.

The Batlord · 06-21-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

You might have misunderstood me. Tilt is nowhere near Merzbow territory, it's just a very acquired taste imho. You might actually enjoy it. I once showed some Scott Walker to my grandma and she thought it was at least interesting.

You know the same thing happened when I played Napalm Death for my grandmother. Of course, I was visiting her grave and slightly off my meds, but it still counts. The other mourners didn't look as happy though.

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You know the same thing happened when I played Napalm Death for my grandmother. Of course, I was visiting her grave and slightly off my meds, but it still counts. The other mourners didn't look as happy though.

You have a grandmother? I always assumed you were the result of a mispronunciation in a summoning spell and nobody could figure out how to send you back!

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 06:01 PM

Title: Tilt
Artiste: Scott Walker
Genre: Avant-Garde, Experimental (again!)
Familiarity: Was he part of The Walker Brothers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt_(...#Track_listing

Track 1(Love) The orchestration is lovely, his voice is great, really dark and sombre, obviously classically trained (opera?); percussion comes in just at the right time. Really like this. Actually, scratch that: I LOVE this!
Track 2(Hate) This is a bit more abrasive. Big disappointment after the epic opener. FTR, his voice was still fantastic.
Track 3(Love) This has an odd kind of sepulchral feel to it; the dark booming percussion is great. The switch to the orchestral halfway through is lovely.
Track 4(Love) This is like progressive rock! Love this!
Track 5(Love) This one is brilliant also. Man has this guy got a voice!
Track 6(Love) This is dark and moody with a certain Cave touch to it. Gets pretty intense. Superb guitar.
Track 7(Love) More powerful orchestration which perfectly complements his strident voice
Track 8(Love) Country-style feel to this; powerful drumming and a wailing guitar like a ghost howling over the prairie
Track 9(Love) And a perfect closer.

End result: If someone had said to me, you'll like Scott Walker, I would not have believed it, and given that Grindy was sure I'd hate this, I'm delighted to say I don't. I enjoyed every single track bar that second one. After that it was all smooth sailing.

So, Love or Hate? Oh, a sure Love.

Chances of a full review: 6/10

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 06:11 PM

Okay, go for it!

Remember, any suggestions anyone made during the hiatus need to be reposted. Thanks.

06-21-2015, 03:16 PM	#861 (permalink)
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06-21-2015, 06:01 PM	#869 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Tilt Artiste: Scott Walker Genre: Avant-Garde, Experimental (again!) Familiarity: Was he part of The Walker Brothers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt_(...#Track_listing Track 1(Love) The orchestration is lovely, his voice is great, really dark and sombre, obviously classically trained (opera?); percussion comes in just at the right time. Really like this. Actually, scratch that: I LOVE this! Track 2(Hate) This is a bit more abrasive. Big disappointment after the epic opener. FTR, his voice was still fantastic. Track 3(Love) This has an odd kind of sepulchral feel to it; the dark booming percussion is great. The switch to the orchestral halfway through is lovely. Track 4(Love) This is like progressive rock! Love this! Track 5(Love) This one is brilliant also. Man has this guy got a voice! Track 6(Love) This is dark and moody with a certain Cave touch to it. Gets pretty intense. Superb guitar. Track 7(Love) More powerful orchestration which perfectly complements his strident voice Track 8(Love) Country-style feel to this; powerful drumming and a wailing guitar like a ghost howling over the prairie Track 9(Love) And a perfect closer. End result: If someone had said to me, you'll like Scott Walker, I would not have believed it, and given that Grindy was sure I'd hate this, I'm delighted to say I don't. I enjoyed every single track bar that second one. After that it was all smooth sailing. So, Love or Hate? Oh, a sure Love. Chances of a full review: 6/10 __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-21-2015, 06:11 PM	#870 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Okay, go for it! Remember, any suggestions anyone made during the hiatus need to be reposted. Thanks. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-21-2015, 04:39 PM	#865 (permalink)
Josef K A Jew on a motorbike! Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 800	I don't think Tilt is that out there - my hope was you'd be into the arrangements. I guess we'll see.