Love or Hate?

The Batlord · 06-21-2015, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Fixed

Fixed what? Without a period, you're leavin' me hangin', dawg.

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Did you get that PM I sent you BTW?

You mean for MM III? Yeah I got it thanks.
Also, why aren't you supporting American superiority in this thread of mine?
http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/82...mark-wars.html

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 11:05 AM

Title: An empty bliss beyond this world
Artiste: The Caretaker
Genre: Electronic, ambient, experimental
Familiarity: A little; I heard this once before but only one track I think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Emp...ond_This_World

Track 1 An interesting recreation of an old vinyl or even 78 record playing some sort of ballroom tune; violins, bit of brass, bass, certainly recreates the idea of an echoing dancefloor in a ballroom where someone has left an old record player going. The sudden abrupt ending is jarring, though I get the feeling that may be the case with most if not all of these pieces.
Track 2 Jumps into an echoing acoustic piano, slower this time, kind of like a waltz. The hissing and clicking on an old record persists. Like the previous one, this basically repeats the same looped sequence all through. At least it;s allowed to finish.
Track 3 More piano, dancier this time, very dancehall or ballroom, with what sounds like the additional sound of heels on a floor walking slowly, and this time it's a full tune, not just one looped sample or extract. It does however cut off again unexpectedly.
Track 4 A jazz tune on trumpets and sax, clarinet and with piano this time very much in the background. Kind of like an old love song.
Track 5 Big orchestral intro this time, like out of those old Hollywood musicals and other films; almost expect a choir to start singing. Looped again.
Track 6 Music is mostly subsumed by the crackling on this one. Think it's bells or something. Oh, then a jangly piano comes through. And fades out. And back in. And out again.
Track 7(Hate) Okay, the dropouts here are driving me mad. It's James bloody Blake all over again!

Track 8 Back to pianos playing in empty dancehalls
Track 9(Love) Sounds like cello and piano now, much slower, almost funereal. Actually reminds me of Pink Floyd off The Wall. “Mother”, I think.
Track 10 Don't get anything from this. Nothing at all.
Track 11 Pretty much a reprise, continuation or copy of track 9.
Track 12 Pretty much snippets of the first few tracks all run together. Meh. More dropouts.
Track 13 This at least has some sort of basic melody to it.
Track 14 Trumpet, but my interest, if there ever was any, is gone.
Track 15 And that's the end of that.

End result: I've no doubt this is clever, well put together and since it seems to reference or apply to or be based on helping people with Alzheimer's, I wouldn't want to put it down. But I also wouldn't want to listen to it. Many will rejoice in its clever use of samples, the moods it evokes, what it says through the music and probably there are those who see or hear something in the silences, the use of crackle and hiss and even the sudden abruptness of the endings of tracks. But I'm not that clever: all I want is something to listen to that I'll enjoy. And I did not enjoy this.

So, Love or Hate? What do you think? A clear Hate. Sorry.

Chances of a full review: 0/10 (I think it would actually be next to impossible for me to review this)

**Frownland** · 06-21-2015, 11:17 AM

It's too bad you didn't like it, I had a feeling you'd go that way but there was still a small chance that it'd be a love. What I like about the record so much is the atmosphere that it creates, but I guess it's not for everybody.

grindy · 06-21-2015, 11:50 AM

Tilt is coming up. I think hate is inevitable. Anyone betting against that?

The Batlord · 06-21-2015, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Also, why aren't you supporting American superiority in this thread of mine?
http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/82...mark-wars.html

A general abundance of indifference.

Trollheart · 06-21-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's too bad you didn't like it, I had a feeling you'd go that way but there was still a small chance that it'd be a love. What I like about the record so much is the atmosphere that it creates, but I guess it's not for everybody.

I do like the atmosphere, and I can as I said understand that it's well made, but unlike Sylvian's effort, this just doesn't evoke too much in me. The constant stop/start, the crackling, the echoes... I know it all means something but in the end I really just want to enjoy my music and as I said, this was not something I enjoyed. To be honest, I couldn't even hate it properly like Merzbow: it was just kind of like Batty said in the post above.

Machine · 06-21-2015, 12:31 PM

When things open up again I'm tempted to give a Natural Snow Buildings album, but I don't think you want to listen to a 2-6 hour album.

**Goofle** · 06-21-2015, 12:34 PM

That would be cruel.

grindy · 06-21-2015, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

That would be cruel.

And here I was planning on recommending the Merzbox.

06-21-2015, 11:05 AM	#843 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Title: An empty bliss beyond this world Artiste: The Caretaker Genre: Electronic, ambient, experimental Familiarity: A little; I heard this once before but only one track I think. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Emp...ond_This_World Track 1 An interesting recreation of an old vinyl or even 78 record playing some sort of ballroom tune; violins, bit of brass, bass, certainly recreates the idea of an echoing dancefloor in a ballroom where someone has left an old record player going. The sudden abrupt ending is jarring, though I get the feeling that may be the case with most if not all of these pieces. Track 2 Jumps into an echoing acoustic piano, slower this time, kind of like a waltz. The hissing and clicking on an old record persists. Like the previous one, this basically repeats the same looped sequence all through. At least it;s allowed to finish. Track 3 More piano, dancier this time, very dancehall or ballroom, with what sounds like the additional sound of heels on a floor walking slowly, and this time it's a full tune, not just one looped sample or extract. It does however cut off again unexpectedly. Track 4 A jazz tune on trumpets and sax, clarinet and with piano this time very much in the background. Kind of like an old love song. Track 5 Big orchestral intro this time, like out of those old Hollywood musicals and other films; almost expect a choir to start singing. Looped again. Track 6 Music is mostly subsumed by the crackling on this one. Think it's bells or something. Oh, then a jangly piano comes through. And fades out. And back in. And out again. Track 7(Hate) Okay, the dropouts here are driving me mad. It's James bloody Blake all over again! Track 8 Back to pianos playing in empty dancehalls Track 9(Love) Sounds like cello and piano now, much slower, almost funereal. Actually reminds me of Pink Floyd off The Wall. “Mother”, I think. Track 10 Don't get anything from this. Nothing at all. Track 11 Pretty much a reprise, continuation or copy of track 9. Track 12 Pretty much snippets of the first few tracks all run together. Meh. More dropouts. Track 13 This at least has some sort of basic melody to it. Track 14 Trumpet, but my interest, if there ever was any, is gone. Track 15 And that's the end of that. End result: I've no doubt this is clever, well put together and since it seems to reference or apply to or be based on helping people with Alzheimer's, I wouldn't want to put it down. But I also wouldn't want to listen to it. Many will rejoice in its clever use of samples, the moods it evokes, what it says through the music and probably there are those who see or hear something in the silences, the use of crackle and hiss and even the sudden abruptness of the endings of tracks. But I'm not that clever: all I want is something to listen to that I'll enjoy. And I did not enjoy this. So, Love or Hate? What do you think? A clear Hate. Sorry. Chances of a full review: 0/10 (I think it would actually be next to impossible for me to review this) __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-21-2015, 11:17 AM	#844 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's too bad you didn't like it, I had a feeling you'd go that way but there was still a small chance that it'd be a love. What I like about the record so much is the atmosphere that it creates, but I guess it's not for everybody. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-21-2015, 11:50 AM	#845 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	Tilt is coming up. I think hate is inevitable. Anyone betting against that? __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

06-21-2015, 12:31 PM	#848 (permalink)
Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	When things open up again I'm tempted to give a Natural Snow Buildings album, but I don't think you want to listen to a 2-6 hour album. __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.