Love or Hate?

Mondo Bungle · 05-19-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Okay, well, what do you want to put in its place?

Thanks man.

Television - Marquee Moon if you haven't heard it

Trollheart · 05-19-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Not big into metal at all, but for some impulsive reason I put this on last night and I'm totally in love.

Heard it.

As I said, I'm going to be deciding whether or not to accept recs, and if I think you're just giving me something in order to annoy me rather than genuinely interested in what I think of it, I'll decline it. Don't push me.

From now on, I'm going to go track-by-track, just very briefly saying if I love or hate it, and why. I do this because I've noticed it can be a little confusing perhaps to follow my reasoning when, say, all the "Love" side says this track is great etc then the "Hate" says I'm bored, and you don't know how that feeling is progressing through the album. It will give more of a moment-by-moment development of how I feel about it. Maybe. I'll try it anyway, see how it goes.

Trollheart · 05-19-2015, 03:52 PM

Title: Tin drum
Artiste: Japan
Genre: Pop/New Wave

Love
I've always liked “Ghosts”. Very minimalistic and quite spooky (appropriately); something of a masterpiece for the time.
“Canton” is also good. Very good in fact. Nice instrumental.

Hate
Pretty generic new-wave eighties stuff so far; not as heavily reliant on synth as some of their stablemates, but still nothing too impressive to me.
Have never been a fan of David Sylvian's voice.

End result: I know Japan from back in my youth, when I reviled anything that was “pop” or at least not rock. Have I changed my mind? Not really: I can see some decent songs here but generally it's the kind of new-wave pop stuff I never cared for.

So, Love or Hate? Hate really

Chances of a full review: 2/10

Justthefacts · 05-20-2015, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Heard it.

I heard you made a thread where you reviewed every Slayer record. I'd love to read it, can't find it though.

Trollheart · 05-20-2015, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

I heard you made a thread where you reviewed every Slayer record. I'd love to read it, can't find it though.

It was part of the now-not-legendary Metal Month II, and it all begins here
http://www.musicbanter.com/members-j...ml#post1492910

Trollheart · 05-20-2015, 06:13 AM

Title: Clear spot
Artiste: Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
Genre: Fuck knows!

Love
1. Decent blues track, no weirdness. When this guy sings he can, ya know, sing.
2. Same, with a decent bit of humour in it
3. Nice soul feel to this
4. Blues this time, and I hear where Waits began to think “Fuck! I need to get on to this shit!” Love the harmonica.
5. This is fucking beautiful. Real laidback westcoast feel to it. Superb.
6. Faster blues/soul hybrid, Waits vocal again. Not mad about it but not bad.
7. Decent track, nothing wrong with it. Not great but not bad. More harmonica. Cool.
8. Another ok track, like the background vocals
9. Nice uptempo blues track with, yes, more harmonica
10. Kind of almost a ballad. Like it. The hoarse voice makes it.

Hate
11. Kind of an example (the first on this album, in fairness) of the silly side of Beefheart I don't like. Not bad though: eleven tracks of twelve before I find something I don't like!
12. And the last is about the same. Still, as I say, not a bad ratio.

End result: Much more “standard” rock than I had expected, no stupid poetry, effects or crazy screams, and overall a much better album than I had been anticipating.

So, Love or Hate? It has to be Love, oddly.

Chances of a full review: 2/10

Oriphiel · 05-20-2015, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Genre: Fuck knows!

So, i'm guessing that it was one of Frownland's recommendations?

**Frownland** · 05-20-2015, 07:30 AM

I knew I could get you to like Beefheart. I thought Safe As Milk would do it but that was too out there for you. You might like The Spotlight Kid, which is very much in the same style as Clear Spot. There's also Bluejeans & Moonbeams and Unconditionally Guaranteed, both of which are pretty much abhorred by the Beefheart community but might be easy enough for you to swallow.

And if you call Beefheart's lyrics stupid again I'll cut ye.

Machine · 05-20-2015, 09:16 AM

Hey are we allowed to give TH more recs yet ?

Plankton · 05-20-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine

Hey are we allowed to give TH more recs yet ?

He opened up the flood gates and got flooded. He hasn't called uncle yet, so go.

05-19-2015, 03:52 PM	#303 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Tin drum Artiste: Japan Genre: Pop/New Wave Love I've always liked “Ghosts”. Very minimalistic and quite spooky (appropriately); something of a masterpiece for the time. “Canton” is also good. Very good in fact. Nice instrumental. Hate Pretty generic new-wave eighties stuff so far; not as heavily reliant on synth as some of their stablemates, but still nothing too impressive to me. Have never been a fan of David Sylvian's voice. End result: I know Japan from back in my youth, when I reviled anything that was “pop” or at least not rock. Have I changed my mind? Not really: I can see some decent songs here but generally it's the kind of new-wave pop stuff I never cared for. So, Love or Hate? Hate really Chances of a full review: 2/10 __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018 Last edited by Trollheart; 05-22-2015 at 01:38 PM.

05-20-2015, 06:13 AM	#306 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Clear spot Artiste: Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band Genre: Fuck knows! Love 1. Decent blues track, no weirdness. When this guy sings he can, ya know, sing. 2. Same, with a decent bit of humour in it 3. Nice soul feel to this 4. Blues this time, and I hear where Waits began to think “Fuck! I need to get on to this shit!” Love the harmonica. 5. This is fucking beautiful. Real laidback westcoast feel to it. Superb. 6. Faster blues/soul hybrid, Waits vocal again. Not mad about it but not bad. 7. Decent track, nothing wrong with it. Not great but not bad. More harmonica. Cool. 8. Another ok track, like the background vocals 9. Nice uptempo blues track with, yes, more harmonica 10. Kind of almost a ballad. Like it. The hoarse voice makes it. Hate 11. Kind of an example (the first on this album, in fairness) of the silly side of Beefheart I don't like. Not bad though: eleven tracks of twelve before I find something I don't like! 12. And the last is about the same. Still, as I say, not a bad ratio. End result: Much more “standard” rock than I had expected, no stupid poetry, effects or crazy screams, and overall a much better album than I had been anticipating. So, Love or Hate? It has to be Love, oddly. Chances of a full review: 2/10 __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018 Last edited by Trollheart; 05-22-2015 at 01:38 PM.

05-20-2015, 07:30 AM	#308 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I knew I could get you to like Beefheart. I thought Safe As Milk would do it but that was too out there for you. You might like The Spotlight Kid, which is very much in the same style as Clear Spot. There's also Bluejeans & Moonbeams and Unconditionally Guaranteed, both of which are pretty much abhorred by the Beefheart community but might be easy enough for you to swallow. And if you call Beefheart's lyrics stupid again I'll cut ye. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-20-2015, 09:16 AM	#309 (permalink)
Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Hey are we allowed to give TH more recs yet ? __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.