Love or Hate?

The Batlord · 11-16-2015, 10:54 AM

TH has already decided that he's not going to do live albums for no apparent reason, so there's no point in trying to make him see common sense.

Key · 11-16-2015, 10:58 AM

^Live albums are great. TH is missing out. No surprise though. He hates fun.

**Frownland** · 11-16-2015, 11:06 AM

He already rantionalized it on a very what if what if basis. There'll be no converting him.

It all just screams of a close minded view of the live format to me.

Plainview · 11-16-2015, 11:12 AM

Thing is, a lot of live albums contain either completely new tracks, or old tracks realised in new ways. I don't see why you can't judge a live album in the same way you can judge a studio album. Davis' Dark Magus being an example of an live album which contains unreleased stuff that deserves to be critiqued and reviewed as if it were a 'regular' album. But if TH is so sure...

Trollheart · 11-16-2015, 11:27 AM

Title: Queen of the Clouds
Artiste: Tove Lo
Genre: Electropop
Familiarity: Zero

1. The sex (intro): It's a six second intro. Spoken. What can I do with that?
2. My gun: Decent enough pop tune; don't see any of the darkness she's supposed to be famous for. “The saddest girl in Sweden”? Not here anyway. Fairly generic I have to say, nothing special.
3. Like em young: Started promisingly with some dark piano but then took off into another meh pop song.
4. Talking body: Yeah, again it's okay but I don't see anything special about it. Still don't see this darkness they're all talkng about.
5. Timebomb: This might be better. Sounds like a Coldplayesque piano ballad maybe. No, not a ballad; it's kicking up now. Still, it does sound a whole lot better than anything else that's gone before.
6. The love (interlude): Another few seconds of talk.
7. Moments: Yeah this isn't bad either. Kind of downtempo though with a good sense of energy.
8. The way that I am: Another good one, again downtempo with some nice piano.
9. Got love: More upbeat and uptempo; getting better. Great hook in this.
10. Not on drugs: Good powerful song. Contains the album title. Getting a little more into this now.
11. The pain (interlude): And another spoken few seconds.
12. Thousand miles: Going back to the sort of downtempo songs with a punch in them. Percussion on this is really good.
13. Habits (Stay high): Meh, not mad about this one. Just not feeling it.
14. This time around: This one's better; back to the downtempo for the most part.
15. Run on love: And this one's more uptempo. Nice rippling keys.
16. Love ballad: Interestingly, not a ballad. Decent closer.

End result: Decent pop album but I don't get the hype; certainly don't see any particular darkness or sadness in her songs that can be remarked upon. For me, it's a more or less forgettable album that I'm not sorry I listened to, but could just as easily have lived without.

So, Love or Hate? Probably be more in the Like area really.

Trollheart · 11-18-2015, 02:28 PM

Title: Thrust
Artiste: Herbie Hancock
Genre: Jazz
Familiarity: I know of him, have heard a few singles. Who hasn't heard “Rockit”?

1. Palm grease: Very funky, very cool. Nice use of synthesisers near the end. Still, something again I would probably only have on in the background if at all.
2. Actual proof: Great piano and organ work here
3. Butterfly: Sort of an Arabian melody here, but I'm already too bored to care by now. You know me and instrumental albums...Very laidback, very smooth. And very boring.
4. Spank-a-Lee: Yeah, jsut more of the same. Bored ****less now.

End result: Bored the arse off me. I can't hack instrumental albums unless they're something that engages me, and this did not. Possibly as background music, but even then it might be pushing it.

So, Love or Hate? A solid Meh for this.

**Frownland** · 11-18-2015, 02:37 PM

I did not know you and instrumental albums did not see eye to eye, I just thought the lack of instrumental reviews on your part was because you gravitate towards rock music more. I figured the funk would be undeniable for you, but you somehow denied it.

Just curious, why do you think vocals are such a dealbreaker?

DeadChannel · 11-18-2015, 02:39 PM

You liked that Godspeed record.

YorkeDaddy · 11-18-2015, 02:41 PM

He clearly says he enjoys instrumental albums if he finds something engaging about it, but hey just another example of a literal moderator not actually reading anything anyone types and pushing his own prerogative instead

**Frownland** · 11-18-2015, 02:45 PM

Or maybe I'm trying to understand Trollheart's perspective a little better. Quit with the weak sauce trolling.

11-16-2015, 11:06 AM	#2063 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	He already rantionalized it on a very what if what if basis. There'll be no converting him. It all just screams of a close minded view of the live format to me. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-16-2015, 11:27 AM	#2065 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Title: Queen of the Clouds Artiste: Tove Lo Genre: Electropop Familiarity: Zero 1. The sex (intro): It's a six second intro. Spoken. What can I do with that? 2. My gun: Decent enough pop tune; don't see any of the darkness she's supposed to be famous for. “The saddest girl in Sweden”? Not here anyway. Fairly generic I have to say, nothing special. 3. Like em young: Started promisingly with some dark piano but then took off into another meh pop song. 4. Talking body: Yeah, again it's okay but I don't see anything special about it. Still don't see this darkness they're all talkng about. 5. Timebomb: This might be better. Sounds like a Coldplayesque piano ballad maybe. No, not a ballad; it's kicking up now. Still, it does sound a whole lot better than anything else that's gone before. 6. The love (interlude): Another few seconds of talk. 7. Moments: Yeah this isn't bad either. Kind of downtempo though with a good sense of energy. 8. The way that I am: Another good one, again downtempo with some nice piano. 9. Got love: More upbeat and uptempo; getting better. Great hook in this. 10. Not on drugs: Good powerful song. Contains the album title. Getting a little more into this now. 11. The pain (interlude): And another spoken few seconds. 12. Thousand miles: Going back to the sort of downtempo songs with a punch in them. Percussion on this is really good. 13. Habits (Stay high): Meh, not mad about this one. Just not feeling it. 14. This time around: This one's better; back to the downtempo for the most part. 15. Run on love: And this one's more uptempo. Nice rippling keys. 16. Love ballad: Interestingly, not a ballad. Decent closer. End result: Decent pop album but I don't get the hype; certainly don't see any particular darkness or sadness in her songs that can be remarked upon. For me, it's a more or less forgettable album that I'm not sorry I listened to, but could just as easily have lived without. So, Love or Hate? Probably be more in the Like area really. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-18-2015, 02:28 PM	#2066 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Title: Thrust Artiste: Herbie Hancock Genre: Jazz Familiarity: I know of him, have heard a few singles. Who hasn't heard “Rockit”? 1. Palm grease: Very funky, very cool. Nice use of synthesisers near the end. Still, something again I would probably only have on in the background if at all. 2. Actual proof: Great piano and organ work here 3. Butterfly: Sort of an Arabian melody here, but I'm already too bored to care by now. You know me and instrumental albums...Very laidback, very smooth. And very boring. 4. Spank-a-Lee: Yeah, jsut more of the same. Bored **less now. End result: Bored the arse off me. I can't hack instrumental albums unless they're something that engages me, and this did not. Possibly as background music, but even then it might be pushing it. So, Love or Hate? A solid Meh** for this. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-18-2015, 02:37 PM	#2067 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I did not know you and instrumental albums did not see eye to eye, I just thought the lack of instrumental reviews on your part was because you gravitate towards rock music more. I figured the funk would be undeniable for you, but you somehow denied it. Just curious, why do you think vocals are such a dealbreaker? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-18-2015, 02:45 PM	#2070 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Or maybe I'm trying to understand Trollheart's perspective a little better. Quit with the weak sauce trolling. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-16-2015, 10:58 AM	#2062 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^Live albums are great. TH is missing out. No surprise though. He hates fun.

11-18-2015, 02:39 PM	#2068 (permalink)
DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	You liked that Godspeed record.