Love or Hate?

TechnicLePanther · 11-09-2015, 05:37 PM

Cool. Pretty much what I should have expected.

Got another suggestion:

Charles Manson - Lie: The Love and Terror Cult

And yes, it is actually by Charles Manson.

Plainview · 11-09-2015, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

Cool. Pretty much what I should have expected.

Got another suggestion:

Charles Manson - Lie: The Love and Terror Cult

And yes, it is actually by Charles Manson.

I actually like this album, he has talent... It's a bit like, you know, say what you will about the Nazis, but they were sharp dressers.

YorkeDaddy · 11-09-2015, 10:12 PM

Grimes - Art Angels

when the true loves are just tooooo easyyyyy

Trollheart · 11-10-2015, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plainview

I actually like this album, he has talent... It's a bit like, you know, say what you will about the Nazis, but they were sharp dressers.

Not to mention the trains ran on time, there were no strikes, etc etc ....

Trollheart · 11-10-2015, 11:10 AM

Title: Die the Nightmare
Artiste: Pat “The Bunny” Schneeweis
Genre: Punk?
Familiarity: Zero

1. First song: Punk? Punk? It's acoustic folky music. I like it. Very catchy, lyric is hilarious.
2. More about alcoholism: Yeah I can hear the punk here; much faster, angrier, still acoustic though. This is quite interesting.
3. We are all compost in training: Yeah this is good. The only problem is that when all the tracks are a little clever/funny the joke may begin to wear thin before the album is over. But we'll see.
4. From here to Utopia (Song for the desperate): Great riff to this, reminds me in ways of Springsteen's “Open all night”. Probably the best track yet.
5. Never coming home (Song for the guilty): Slower kind of lament. Nice.
6. Vampires are poseurs (Song for the living): Great title anyway. Good start. It's more uptempo, but it doesn't really live up to the promise of the title.
7. Of ballots and barricades: Yeah it's okay but I'm kind of losing interest now.
8. Bitter old man: So, he wrote a song about me, did he? Nice and uptempo. Other than that, meh.
9. Your heart is a muscle the size of your fist: Yeah it's okay but I'm finding it hard to care now.
10. First song (Part 2): Yeah, just bored now.

End result: It's good but the novelty soon wore off and I was just left waiting for it to end.

So, Love or Hate? Nothing more than a Meh here I'm afraid.

Trollheart · 11-11-2015, 04:08 PM

Title: Roots
Artiste: Curtis Mayfield
Genre: Soul/R&B
Familiarity: Who doesn't know of Curtis? Saw him on the OGWT from the 70s; very uplifting performance. Haven't heard much at all from him though.

1. Get down: Sort of opens like a steam train coming into the station, then some very Santanaesque guitar gets the song going, some great brass coming in. Great sense of togetherness, brotherhood in the song. Certainly brings the funk.
2. Keep on keeping on: More soulful and laidback to a degree, kind of reminds me in ways of “What's happenin'?” Great backing vocals. Again the brass is excellent.
3. Underground: Very soft vocal, almost spoken; seems to be an early eco-song. Nice soft tribal style drums. Definitely see a correlation between this and what Marvin was doing. Real kind of shuffle to it.
4. We got to have peace: Man, there was certainly optimism back then wasn't there? Between himself and Marvin they really hoped for the future and tried to build a better world. Love the keys in this and the short sax solo. And the longer sax outro.
5. Beautiful brother of mine: Sort of an idea of a Bond movie about this. Funks along nicely. Some fine orchestration. Great stuff at the end there, sounds like synth but were they using synth in 1971?
6. Now you're gone: Ooh yeah! Sing them blues, Curtis! This is obviously the big ballad. Again that orchestra adds its punch in just the right moments and never swamps the production like some later bands. It's a vehicle for Curtis's voice, not an excuse for it or something to hide behind.
7. Love to keep you in mind: Kind of a feel like a Mariachi ballad, with the trumpets going. Not bad, but maybe not as strong as some of the other tracks. Won't spoil a perfect record though; it's worth a Green of anyone's money.

End result: Superb and important soul album from the glory days of r&B, when the genre actually meant what it stood for, not just for where the singer came from or how many Grammys they had won. Destiny's Child? Give me a break! This music MEANT something. Excellent stuff.

So, Love or Hate? Well, it has to be a Love, don't it? Micco is, as I said already, turning into my sensei for soul and r&b...

**Frownland** · 11-11-2015, 04:18 PM

Replace my Mr. Bungle track with this one since the full album has been recommended to you now (it's wildly different from Disco Volante, in case you were afraid of that).

Gonjasufi - Kobwebz

It's on Spotify, but for some reason that's the only track from the album that's not available on Youtube.

Trollheart · 11-11-2015, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

Replace my Mr. Bungle track with this one since the full album has been recommended to you now (it's wildly different from Disco Volante, in case you were afraid of that).

Gonjasufi - Kobwebz

It's on Spotify, but for some reason that's the only track from the album that's not available on Youtube.

I'm afraid of nothing!

Except spiders, wasps, strange sounds at night, getting old, the gathering darkness....

Machine · 11-11-2015, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Title: Die the Nightmare
Artiste: Pat “The Bunny” Schneeweis
Genre: Punk?
Familiarity: Zero

1. First song: Punk? Punk? It's acoustic folky music. I like it. Very catchy, lyric is hilarious.
2. More about alcoholism: Yeah I can hear the punk here; much faster, angrier, still acoustic though. This is quite interesting.
3. We are all compost in training: Yeah this is good. The only problem is that when all the tracks are a little clever/funny the joke may begin to wear thin before the album is over. But we'll see.
4. From here to Utopia (Song for the desperate): Great riff to this, reminds me in ways of Springsteen's “Open all night”. Probably the best track yet.
5. Never coming home (Song for the guilty): Slower kind of lament. Nice.
6. Vampires are poseurs (Song for the living): Great title anyway. Good start. It's more uptempo, but it doesn't really live up to the promise of the title.
7. Of ballots and barricades: Yeah it's okay but I'm kind of losing interest now.
8. Bitter old man: So, he wrote a song about me, did he? Nice and uptempo. Other than that, meh.
9. Your heart is a muscle the size of your fist: Yeah it's okay but I'm finding it hard to care now.
10. First song (Part 2): Yeah, just bored now.

End result: It's good but the novelty soon wore off and I was just left waiting for it to end.

So, Love or Hate? Nothing more than a Meh here I'm afraid.

To give a bit of backround on this album, these are all stripped down acoustic versions of Pat's album Live The Dream which is much more fleshed out in sound. I like this album, but Live The Dreams kicks serious ass I recommend trying that one out as well if you ever get the chance to.

Trollheart · 11-12-2015, 06:36 AM

Title: Almanac
Artiste: The Deaf Aids
Genre: Electronic
Familiarity: I've heard I think two of Plainview's albums before...

1. Inertia: Nice, very nice sax opening then some feedback or something. Weird guitar stuff? This is why I don't like Plainview's music and Frownland probably does: he starts off with a good melody and then starts messing and experimenting. I'm sure it's very clever but it's not something I like to listen to personally. One more reason why I intend to stop accepting recs for people's personal albums. This isn't too bad to be fair.
2. Let's be lonely together: This has some nice synthwork; something phasing? Sounds pretty good when it falls back to just that sound. Then other synths come in. Still quite pleasant. Some sampled sounds now? Voices? Gaining in intensity. This all works quite well. Peppy synth coming back in and the beat is picking up. Yeah, like this one.
3. Packed in: Big kind of roaring wind sound, then either heavy steps or breathing, and what sounds like milk bottles being tapped. Vocoder? Heavy (looped?) piano, very bassy. Few samples coming together. Milk bottles are back. Kind of a honking synth taking the tune mostly. More bassy piano as it ends. Badly, I'm afraid.
4. You are not awake: Shark in the water! Get out of the water! And he's playing a solo on a guitar too! Samply synth added in now and I think that may be digital piano now? That's quite nice, then there's something like a spaceship flying to and fro, unless it's whalesong. Guitar is back now. Same solo so assume that's a sample. Gone now. Piano only. Bippy synth on the edges. Went into something of a dirge, which was annoying, then ended on that piano again.
5. Perfect plastic replica: Has a little more of a cohesive feel of tuneful melody about it but still not really the kind of thing I want to listen to I'm afraid. Bit plodding too.
6. Erase me: Nice sort of Supertramp-y sax with a kind of industrial vibe. That could have been harmonica just now. Or possibly not. Nice combination of synth and piano there at the end.
7. Alienation: Making a cup of coffee? Then climbing the stairs? Yeah, this one is a little too weird. Nice funky bass, but again for me the tune doesn't go anywhere or do anything. I know it doesn't have to, but I prefer it to. Some nice interesting samples change it up, but they just kind of add to the overall weirdness. But then again, I suppose it is called “Alienation”. Did he just use the Windows start sound?

8. Fog: Has that Floyd “On the run” sound about it. Is that sampled? No, he wouldn't do that! Nice peppy horns or synth. Pretty cool really.
9. Reheated: Kind of sounds like a pig got loose in the studio! And a guy walking around with a tuba chasing it, trying to catch it. Put the tuba down man! You'll have a much better chance that way!

Gone into a slower, more laidback groove now and it sounds like the pig has been replaced by a dog. That's definitely harmonica though. Nice sort of strings keys at the end. I'll actually change this from White to Orange.
10. I don't want any trouble: This has a nice sort of slow, orchestral feel to it, then something like glass harp, though I'm sure it's not. Nice melody throughout mostly. One of my favourites here. Like the way it speeds up almost techno-lite at the end.
11. Kids in glass cages: Nice mix of a sort of industrial feel merging with an older lounge music/jazz thing. Pretty cool closer really.

End result: Well of all Plainview's music I've listened to this is the first I've actually been able to pick out some tracks on which I liked. Which is not to say his music is bad, not at all, just usually not my kind of thing. This still isn't, not really, but it's definitely the best of his I've listened to.

So, Love or Hate? One step up then. Not a Love but a good strong Like.

11-09-2015, 05:37 PM	#2001 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Cool. Pretty much what I should have expected. Got another suggestion: Charles Manson - Lie: The Love and Terror Cult And yes, it is actually by Charles Manson. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

11-10-2015, 11:10 AM	#2005 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Die the Nightmare Artiste: Pat “The Bunny” Schneeweis Genre: Punk? Familiarity: Zero 1. First song: Punk? Punk? It's acoustic folky music. I like it. Very catchy, lyric is hilarious. 2. More about alcoholism: Yeah I can hear the punk here; much faster, angrier, still acoustic though. This is quite interesting. 3. We are all compost in training: Yeah this is good. The only problem is that when all the tracks are a little clever/funny the joke may begin to wear thin before the album is over. But we'll see. 4. From here to Utopia (Song for the desperate): Great riff to this, reminds me in ways of Springsteen's “Open all night”. Probably the best track yet. 5. Never coming home (Song for the guilty): Slower kind of lament. Nice. 6. Vampires are poseurs (Song for the living): Great title anyway. Good start. It's more uptempo, but it doesn't really live up to the promise of the title. 7. Of ballots and barricades: Yeah it's okay but I'm kind of losing interest now. 8. Bitter old man: So, he wrote a song about me, did he? Nice and uptempo. Other than that, meh. 9. Your heart is a muscle the size of your fist: Yeah it's okay but I'm finding it hard to care now. 10. First song (Part 2): Yeah, just bored now. End result: It's good but the novelty soon wore off and I was just left waiting for it to end. So, Love or Hate? Nothing more than a Meh here I'm afraid. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-11-2015, 04:08 PM	#2006 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Roots Artiste: Curtis Mayfield Genre: Soul/R&B Familiarity: Who doesn't know of Curtis? Saw him on the OGWT from the 70s; very uplifting performance. Haven't heard much at all from him though. 1. Get down: Sort of opens like a steam train coming into the station, then some very Santanaesque guitar gets the song going, some great brass coming in. Great sense of togetherness, brotherhood in the song. Certainly brings the funk. 2. Keep on keeping on: More soulful and laidback to a degree, kind of reminds me in ways of “What's happenin'?” Great backing vocals. Again the brass is excellent. 3. Underground: Very soft vocal, almost spoken; seems to be an early eco-song. Nice soft tribal style drums. Definitely see a correlation between this and what Marvin was doing. Real kind of shuffle to it. 4. We got to have peace: Man, there was certainly optimism back then wasn't there? Between himself and Marvin they really hoped for the future and tried to build a better world. Love the keys in this and the short sax solo. And the longer sax outro. 5. Beautiful brother of mine: Sort of an idea of a Bond movie about this. Funks along nicely. Some fine orchestration. Great stuff at the end there, sounds like synth but were they using synth in 1971? 6. Now you're gone: Ooh yeah! Sing them blues, Curtis! This is obviously the big ballad. Again that orchestra adds its punch in just the right moments and never swamps the production like some later bands. It's a vehicle for Curtis's voice, not an excuse for it or something to hide behind. 7. Love to keep you in mind: Kind of a feel like a Mariachi ballad, with the trumpets going. Not bad, but maybe not as strong as some of the other tracks. Won't spoil a perfect record though; it's worth a Green of anyone's money. End result: Superb and important soul album from the glory days of r&B, when the genre actually meant what it stood for, not just for where the singer came from or how many Grammys they had won. Destiny's Child? Give me a break! This music MEANT something. Excellent stuff. So, Love or Hate? Well, it has to be a Love, don't it? Micco is, as I said already, turning into my sensei for soul and r&b... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-11-2015, 04:18 PM	#2007 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Replace my Mr. Bungle track with this one since the full album has been recommended to you now (it's wildly different from Disco Volante, in case you were afraid of that). Gonjasufi - Kobwebz It's on Spotify, but for some reason that's the only track from the album that's not available on Youtube. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-12-2015, 06:36 AM	#2010 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Almanac Artiste: The Deaf Aids Genre: Electronic Familiarity: I've heard I think two of Plainview's albums before... 1. Inertia: Nice, very nice sax opening then some feedback or something. Weird guitar stuff? This is why I don't like Plainview's music and Frownland probably does: he starts off with a good melody and then starts messing and experimenting. I'm sure it's very clever but it's not something I like to listen to personally. One more reason why I intend to stop accepting recs for people's personal albums. This isn't too bad to be fair. 2. Let's be lonely together: This has some nice synthwork; something phasing? Sounds pretty good when it falls back to just that sound. Then other synths come in. Still quite pleasant. Some sampled sounds now? Voices? Gaining in intensity. This all works quite well. Peppy synth coming back in and the beat is picking up. Yeah, like this one. 3. Packed in: Big kind of roaring wind sound, then either heavy steps or breathing, and what sounds like milk bottles being tapped. Vocoder? Heavy (looped?) piano, very bassy. Few samples coming together. Milk bottles are back. Kind of a honking synth taking the tune mostly. More bassy piano as it ends. Badly, I'm afraid. 4. You are not awake: Shark in the water! Get out of the water! And he's playing a solo on a guitar too! Samply synth added in now and I think that may be digital piano now? That's quite nice, then there's something like a spaceship flying to and fro, unless it's whalesong. Guitar is back now. Same solo so assume that's a sample. Gone now. Piano only. Bippy synth on the edges. Went into something of a dirge, which was annoying, then ended on that piano again. 5. Perfect plastic replica: Has a little more of a cohesive feel of tuneful melody about it but still not really the kind of thing I want to listen to I'm afraid. Bit plodding too. 6. Erase me: Nice sort of Supertramp-y sax with a kind of industrial vibe. That could have been harmonica just now. Or possibly not. Nice combination of synth and piano there at the end. 7. Alienation: Making a cup of coffee? Then climbing the stairs? Yeah, this one is a little too weird. Nice funky bass, but again for me the tune doesn't go anywhere or do anything. I know it doesn't have to, but I prefer it to. Some nice interesting samples change it up, but they just kind of add to the overall weirdness. But then again, I suppose it is called “Alienation”. Did he just use the Windows start sound? 8. Fog: Has that Floyd “On the run” sound about it. Is that sampled? No, he wouldn't do that! Nice peppy horns or synth. Pretty cool really. 9. Reheated: Kind of sounds like a pig got loose in the studio! And a guy walking around with a tuba chasing it, trying to catch it. Put the tuba down man! You'll have a much better chance that way! Gone into a slower, more laidback groove now and it sounds like the pig has been replaced by a dog. That's definitely harmonica though. Nice sort of strings keys at the end. I'll actually change this from White to Orange. 10. I don't want any trouble: This has a nice sort of slow, orchestral feel to it, then something like glass harp, though I'm sure it's not. Nice melody throughout mostly. One of my favourites here. Like the way it speeds up almost techno-lite at the end. 11. Kids in glass cages: Nice mix of a sort of industrial feel merging with an older lounge music/jazz thing. Pretty cool closer really. End result: Well of all Plainview's music I've listened to this is the first I've actually been able to pick out some tracks on which I liked. Which is not to say his music is bad, not at all, just usually not my kind of thing. This still isn't, not really, but it's definitely the best of his I've listened to. So, Love or Hate? One step up then. Not a Love but a good strong Like. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018