Has music become stagnant (stopped moving/evolving)?

**Janszoon** · 12-09-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

I believe these guys have a couple of words for you on the whole concept of de-evolution

Pursuingchange · 12-09-2012, 02:50 PM

Look man, don't be contrary. The reason I asked you not to think of some witty rebuttal is because thats all people use the internet for these days. People will turn something that is not an argument into one so they can refute and make themselves sound smart. That's exactly what you are doing. Like I said, I think you know I'm talking about.

EVH and Kurt Cobain are not the only innovators. They are just two of the few I listed. I never had any malice when I created this thread, but somehow I knew that There would be a couple of people on here who find an argument here and try to pick it alart untill the relevance is gone, and then be all smartass about it. What I'm trying to say is very simple. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to understand. I don't think there are as many innovators in this time. It might be because music in general is hard to innovate in this time, or lack of new musical avenues and ideas to explore. I cited the people who I believed were true innovators in history. There are more than what I listed, but those few are ones that really stand out to me. Plus, how can you say that I'm only focusing on rock guitar when I clearly stated Michael Jackson and dancing? Quit picking apart what I'm saying and be a part of the real conversation man. There's no arguments going on here.

**Janszoon** · 12-09-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursuingchange

Plus, how can you say that I'm only focusing on rock guitar when I clearly stated Michael Jackson and dancing?

Um... because I made that comment before you said anything about Michael Jackson.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-09-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursuingchange

Look man, don't be contrary. The reason I asked you not to think of some witty rebuttal is because thats all people use the internet for these days. People will turn something that is not an argument into one so they can refute and make themselves sound smart. That's exactly what you are doing. Like I said, I think you know I'm talking about.

EVH and Kurt Cobain are not the only innovators. They are just two of the few I listed. I never had any malice when I created this thread, but somehow I knew that There would be a couple of people on here who find an argument here and try to pick it alart untill the relevance is gone, and then be all smartass about it. What I'm trying to say is very simple. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to understand. I don't think there are as many innovators in this time. It might be because music in general is hard to innovate in this time, or lack of new musical avenues and ideas to explore. I cited the people who I believed were true innovators in history. There are more than what I listed, but those few are ones that really stand out to me. Plus, how can you say that I'm only focusing on rock guitar when I clearly stated Michael Jackson and dancing? Quit picking apart what I'm saying and be a part of the real conversation man. There's no arguments going on here.

I just gave you an example of an innovator in the last 10 years and you totally ignored it.

**Janszoon** · 12-09-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

I just gave you an example of an innovator in the last 10 years and you totally ignored it.

I'm pretty sure he's not actually interested in having a conversation with anyone.

Pursuingchange · 12-09-2012, 06:14 PM

Whatever. I can see that you guys will find an argument regardless if there is one or not. Michael Jackson was one of the first people I mentioned.

And about the innovation you mentioned. I've never even heard of that artist. Apparently not much of an innovation huh? I bet I could go around to just about everyone at my work, around my neighborhood, and around town, and they've probably never heard of Dizee Rascal. People who make true innovations should be well-known even to people who don't actively explore new music. The artists I mentioned affected music on a grand scale. Sure, the elements of their style existed before them, but they were the people who put it all together and put it into motion on a large scale. It takes a true innovator to do that. That's all I'm saying.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-09-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursuingchange

And about the innovation you mentioned. I've never even heard of that artist. Apparently not much of an innovation huh? I bet I could go around to just about everyone at my work, around my neighborhood, and around town, and they've probably never heard of Dizee Rascal. People who make true innovations should be well-known even to people who don't actively explore new music.

He's a multi platinum selling artist in Europe, so all I can suggest is you're not even remotely interested in looking for anything innovative and you're probably sitting on your backside moaning about how music wasn't as good as it was in the good old days without even bothering to look for it.

I tried to debate this seriously with you, so far you've shown me you're nothing more than a total arse. So with that I'll be leaving this thread now and bid you goodbye and hope you're happy playing those first 6 Van Halen records for the rest of your life.

Rjinn · 12-09-2012, 10:17 PM

Music has never stopped evolving. You just got to keep walking through different crossroads if you're open-minded enough.

It's usually the case that people tend to have rigid ideas and or stuck in some past generation style to progress taste themselves.

Pursuingchange · 12-09-2012, 11:06 PM

Pursuingchange · 12-09-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

He's a multi platinum selling artist in Europe, so all I can suggest is you're not even remotely interested in looking for anything innovative and you're probably sitting on your backside moaning about how music wasn't as good as it was in the good old days without even bothering to look for it.

I tried to debate this seriously with you, so far you've shown me you're nothing more than a total arse. So with that I'll be leaving this thread now and bid you goodbye and hope you're happy playing those first 6 Van Halen records for the rest of your life.

Look you *******, screw you! Ok!? I'm not even a very big fan of Van Halen, it was just a friggin' example, ok!? Just shut up. Your not that damn smart.

12-09-2012, 10:17 PM	#68 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Music has never stopped evolving. You just got to keep walking through different crossroads if you're open-minded enough. It's usually the case that people tend to have rigid ideas and or stuck in some past generation style to progress taste themselves. __________________ last.fm

12-09-2012, 02:50 PM	#62 (permalink)
Pursuingchange Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 139	Look man, don't be contrary. The reason I asked you not to think of some witty rebuttal is because thats all people use the internet for these days. People will turn something that is not an argument into one so they can refute and make themselves sound smart. That's exactly what you are doing. Like I said, I think you know I'm talking about. EVH and Kurt Cobain are not the only innovators. They are just two of the few I listed. I never had any malice when I created this thread, but somehow I knew that There would be a couple of people on here who find an argument here and try to pick it alart untill the relevance is gone, and then be all smartass about it. What I'm trying to say is very simple. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to understand. I don't think there are as many innovators in this time. It might be because music in general is hard to innovate in this time, or lack of new musical avenues and ideas to explore. I cited the people who I believed were true innovators in history. There are more than what I listed, but those few are ones that really stand out to me. Plus, how can you say that I'm only focusing on rock guitar when I clearly stated Michael Jackson and dancing? Quit picking apart what I'm saying and be a part of the real conversation man. There's no arguments going on here.

12-09-2012, 06:14 PM	#66 (permalink)
Pursuingchange Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 139	Whatever. I can see that you guys will find an argument regardless if there is one or not. Michael Jackson was one of the first people I mentioned. And about the innovation you mentioned. I've never even heard of that artist. Apparently not much of an innovation huh? I bet I could go around to just about everyone at my work, around my neighborhood, and around town, and they've probably never heard of Dizee Rascal. People who make true innovations should be well-known even to people who don't actively explore new music. The artists I mentioned affected music on a grand scale. Sure, the elements of their style existed before them, but they were the people who put it all together and put it into motion on a large scale. It takes a true innovator to do that. That's all I'm saying.

12-09-2012, 11:06 PM	#69 (permalink)
Pursuingchange Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 139