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07-18-2013, 04:21 PM | #141 (permalink) |
Juicious Maximus III
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Right now, there is a young Norwegian woman imprisoned in Dubai. She's been charged with consumption of alcohol without a license and for having sex outside the marriage. So what's her story? She was on a work trip and was out partying with her colleagues. She woke up from being raped in a hotel room, but managed to escape. She ran to the reception and told them to call the police. The police came and put her in prison. Being Norwegian, the thought she could get imprisoned for reporting her getting raped never occurred to her. This happened about four months ago and she's still there. She just got her sentence, one year and four months. Edit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marte_Dalelv_rape_incident
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07-18-2013, 05:35 PM | #142 (permalink) | |
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However- this next comment might cut a bit close to the whole "can any blame be apportioned to the victim" thing because it's down that line of reasoning-but the fact that she was ignorant of the laws in a very different country from her own obviously worked against her. I'm not saying she should be expected to study Sharia Law extensively before her trip, but there are certain aspects of societies like these which I would expect to be almost common knowledge by now, namely their backward stance on rape and women's rights which obviously go hand in hand with deep rooted misogyny and gender bias. Hopefully justice is done on her appeal, but (from the little of what I've seen on the case) it seems the best she can hope for is to go home after a few months in prison, rather than actually get the perpetrator/(s)? imprisoned themselves. Hardly justice. |
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07-18-2013, 05:49 PM | #143 (permalink) | |
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07-18-2013, 06:14 PM | #145 (permalink) | |
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Not all Muslims are the same of course, it's Islam the ideology that promotes hatred and intolerance etc.
There are peaceful, tolerant Muslims but they aren't following the religion correctly. This surah is talking about types of women a Muslim man is allowed to have sex with. Quote:
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07-18-2013, 11:15 PM | #146 (permalink) |
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Lets not turn this rape into a murder.
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07-19-2013, 01:58 AM | #147 (permalink) | |
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07-19-2013, 02:43 AM | #148 (permalink) | |
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Based on this, sharia law seems a mockery of justice. Yes Makes me wish there was more one could do for her. Hopefully the embassy or foreign affairs can get a hold of her and bring her home.
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07-19-2013, 09:43 AM | #149 (permalink) | |
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Another copy & paste from the other thread follows :
If anyone wants to try and help out Marte Deborah Dalelv who has been imprisoned in Dubai due to her own rape, here are some suggestions to some simple things you can do.
Finally, Marte was also fired by her employer, The One Planet, for her behaviour. Considering this happened on her business trip, I am horrified that they would not support her like helping her out with legal fees. If I travel abroad on a business trip, I am well insured and assume my employer would help me out should I become the victim of a crime, as any employer should. I sent an email to them. If you want to complain to them, their facebook page is here (though it may be down at the moment) and their twitter is here. You can also send an email to them at the following adress : theone@theone.com If you want to send them something, but don't know what to write, you can copy and paste this text which was written by Norwegian blogger Gunnar Tjomlid. Quote:
edit : I made a thread dedicated to the Marte Deborah Dalelv rape incident -> http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...-incident.html Feel free to reply in there!
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Something Completely Different Last edited by Guybrush; 07-19-2013 at 10:16 AM. |
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07-19-2013, 11:58 AM | #150 (permalink) | |
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**** Dubai.
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