Ambient, industrial, noise, etc...

sidewinder · 03-24-2010, 07:26 PM

I will need to put on some Gub one of these days. It's true that many of their albums sound like compilations and don't always flow that well, even my favorite Notes from thee Underground. But I never really thought about songs sounding like the bands of contributing members. Not saying it's not true, just never paid much attention to who contributed to what.

**Janszoon** · 03-24-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder

I will need to put on some Gub one of these days. It's true that many of their albums sound like compilations and don't always flow that well, even my favorite Notes from thee Underground. But I never really thought about songs sounding like the bands of contributing members. Not saying it's not true, just never paid much attention to who contributed to what.

Well, like I said before, some of the songs are so much in the guest musician's style that they are actually literally on other albums by the guest. The song "Nutopia" from A New High In Low, for example, also appears on the Meg Lee Chin album Piece and Love. Not a different version of it mind you, the exact same recording.

I know it probably sounds like I'm putting down these other Pigface albums, but I'm not. I really do like all of them a lot. More than anything I'm just saying you should give Gub another chance sometime.

sidewinder · 03-24-2010, 10:22 PM

Wow, that does surprise me about some exact songs being on both albums. I remember the song Nutopia pretty well too, but I've never heard Meg Lee Chin's albums so I guess that's why I didn't know.

I will rip Gub to my computer tonight!

**Janszoon** · 03-24-2010, 10:28 PM

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Wow, that does surprise me about some exact songs being on both albums. I remember the song Nutopia pretty well too, but I've never heard Meg Lee Chin's albums so I guess that's why I didn't know.

The album it's on is actually really good IMO. Imagine if Ani DiFranco hung with the Wax Trax crowd instead of hanging out in coffee shops and that will give you some sense of Meg Lee Chin's style.

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I will rip Gub to my computer tonight!

That's the spirit!

sidewinder · 03-25-2010, 05:33 PM

I just finished listening to Gub.

I still find most of it boring and hard to listen to. I like the Ogre tracks best, big surprise there.

The Reznor and Connelly tracks are next, and the Yow ones I don't really dig much, nor the En-Esch ones. I'd say Tapeworm, Bushmaster, the remixes for each, Little Sisters, and Suck of course are the best tracks. Really if you take out the Yow and En-Esch tracks I'd like it a lot more. I could stand to listen to this, as it is, once every few years but that's about it really. It is industrial, it's not meant to be melodic and tuneful, and I get that. Which is why it's fine in small doses.

This is funny, from rateyourmusic.com:

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This album features an early version of the future Nine Inch Nails song Suck, which does feature Trent Reznor, but is a much simpler drum, bass and vocals arrangement with entirely different music.

Wouldn't that make this the original and the NIN one a cover?

Even if Reznor was involved in both.

Roemilca · 03-25-2010, 05:38 PM

I'm getting really into Bong-Ra.

**Janszoon** · 03-25-2010, 11:16 PM

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I'm getting really into Bong-Ra.

Not ambient, industrial or noise but I do agree he's really good.

**Janszoon** · 03-25-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder

I just finished listening to Gub.

I still find most of it boring and hard to listen to. I like the Ogre tracks best, big surprise there.

The Reznor and Connelly tracks are next, and the Yow ones I don't really dig much, nor the En-Esch ones. I'd say Tapeworm, Bushmaster, the remixes for each, Little Sisters, and Suck of course are the best tracks. Really if you take out the Yow and En-Esch tracks I'd like it a lot more. I could stand to listen to this, as it is, once every few years but that's about it really. It is industrial, it's not meant to be melodic and tuneful, and I get that. Which is why it's fine in small doses.

I'm kind of amazed you'd describe it as boring. While I agree that the En Esch song is awful, I think it's the only bad thing about the album. "Tapeworm", "The Bushmaster", "Suck", "The Greenhouse", "Little Sisters", "Tailor Made", "Blood and Sand" and "Weightless" are all amazing tracks IMHO, and that's the bulk of the album right there. Ah well, to each his own.

One thing I don't get though, you say you dislike the two Yow tracks but then you list one of them ("The Bushmaster") as a favorite from the album. I'm confused.

sidewinder · 03-26-2010, 12:39 AM

Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals.

It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either.

**Janszoon** · 03-26-2010, 07:03 AM

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Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals.

It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either.

One thing I was wondering too is if your perception of the album is somewhat brought down by all the pointless bonus tracks they tacked on to the end of the CD. My original copy of the album was on cassette so I still tend to perceive "Weightless" as the last song and just disregard the remaining five tracks as not really part of the album. With the exception of the "Little Sisters" remix, those songs really are pretty pointless.

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sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	I will need to put on some Gub one of these days. It's true that many of their albums sound like compilations and don't always flow that well, even my favorite Notes from thee Underground. But I never really thought about songs sounding like the bands of contributing members. Not saying it's not true, just never paid much attention to who contributed to what. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

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sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	Wow, that does surprise me about some exact songs being on both albums. I remember the song Nutopia pretty well too, but I've never heard Meg Lee Chin's albums so I guess that's why I didn't know. I will rip Gub to my computer tonight! __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

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Roemilca Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 412	I'm getting really into Bong-Ra. __________________

03-26-2010, 12:39 AM	#29 (permalink)
sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	Maybe I'm the one that's confused. I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals. It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.