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Old 09-07-2009, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is some avant garde jazz hardcore that I never really got into but I should have. I'm liking them enough that I feel that they deserve a thread. Anyone wanna talk about some old Skin Graft stuff?
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No replies to this? You bad people.

Dazzling Killmen are fucking insanely good, especially Face of Collapse. Wouldn't say they're jazzcore, they're more a math rock/post hardcore band influenced by the jazz arrangements of guys like Sun Ra... but I'm just being a genre Nazi really.
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eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.
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No replies to this? You bad people.

Dazzling Killmen are fucking insanely good, especially Face of Collapse. Wouldn't say they're jazzcore, they're more a math rock/post hardcore band influenced by the jazz arrangements of guys like Sun Ra... but I'm just being a genre Nazi really.
I've been thinking that for over a year myself.
As for the genre - I really can't remember why I called this 'avant garde jazz hardcore'. Really I always just lumped them in with noise rock put out by Skin Graft in the early 90s.

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eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.
Sorry, man, I know you like it raw. I'll try to post about something more R-rated next time.
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I'll admit I like it much better than 'Painkiller' which I feel, apart from some playful psuedojapanese improvised fake arguments between Zorn and Tatsuya Yoshida is pretty tedious.
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Dazzling Killmen are great from what I have heard. I mentioned them in the best math rock thread the other day, "Face of Collapse" is an album everybody should listen to.

I have not listened to a lot of the labels discography, but from what I have I have enjoyed.

Dazzling Killmen, Shorty, U.S. Maple, Colassamite and Melt-Banana have released some great stuff on the label.
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favorite by them thus far.
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eh, before I clicked I got all psyched about this. Honestly, by stanards of this type of music... it's average.

Then again, that's just from this video. I think it's the dull percussion. Frankly, it's hard to do a Last Exit or Naked City type thing without a Ronald Shannon Jackson or Joey Baron. Feels kind of PG in comparison.
Average compared to who? I don't think they're trying to do a Naked City at all, it's much more akin to stuff by the likes of Rodan, Drive Like Jehu etc, and I think DK stands up well against such peers.
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Average compared to who? I don't think they're trying to do a Naked City at all, it's much more akin to stuff by the likes of Rodan, Drive Like Jehu etc, and I think DK stands up well against such peers.
To things I've heard that fuse thrash/hardcore with jazz. I mean, it just feels very contained.
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